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在过去的几个月时间内啊
我们生动活泼的小伙伴们一直在忙一个活动
叫做futureandremix
那这一次的活动
我们把它的名字叫做AI如何重塑我们的内容创作
那这样一个其实汇集了很多很前沿的AI创作内容领域的创作者
然后以及很多的这个科技行业领域的从业者
那这个活动我们其实是跟香港音乐节一起合作联合举办的
终于在上周五在香港完成
顺利的结束了
结束以后
我们也收到了很多的现场的还有参会者的给我们的正向反馈
所以在今天的这几期节目当中
我们也希望能够把会议上面的这些精华跟大家一起来分享一下
像上次和俊宇在节目中聊到的一样啊
那AI它其实就是一种utility
它就是一种基础设施
所以我发现
其实最近在我跟很多科技圈朋友们聊天的过程当中啊
大家其实对AI如何落地应用
其实还是有一点点这个灰心和丧气的
那我希望能够通过这样子的一次跨行业啊
甚至是跨地区这样的一种交流
能够产生出一些非共识的想法
产生出一些灵感和火花
那这一次虽然是一个闭门的会议
然后大家其实也不用担心
我们把所有的节目完整的编辑成了三期节目
然后今天大家听到是我们的这个音频的节目
下周我们会在youtube
specialify以及给我自己的小红书上面看到我们制作的视频
因为啊
这次其实是一个
呃
全英文的节目
我们当然也会配上我们的中文的翻译
然后包括台上的一些嘉宾也分享了他们用AI制作的各种视音频等等的这样的一些素材
我们也会把这些内容完整的放在我们的视频当中
所以期待大家下周在不同的平台上面关注我们的视频内容
sofirstofallthankyouofsomuchforcomingtoourevenafuturerenext
那第一个panel
也是我自己主持的一个panel
那主题就是AI对内容创作者的影响
那我们也分别邀请到了几位其实前年呢
已经在用AI创作的一些创作者
然后很多人他们已经获得了国际上面的大奖
那比如说是以非常多知名艺人合作过的AI导演june
以及受邀参加这次ultra音乐节的创作人lona
然后还有VR演唱会的制作公司amazeVR的CEOstevly
然后他们都是大量使用AI工具
并且将AI整合到日常的工作流里面的创作者
那另外呢
我们也邀请到了香港进会大学艺术学院的教授johnnyput来分享他在艺术教育方面的一些前沿的探索和他的研究
令我印象深刻的是啊
这几位嘉宾其实都是来自不同的创作领域
但他们基本都提到了
他们利用不同的AI工具
大大提升了他们在这个工作上面的效率
包括节省了很多他们的时间和人力的成本
比如啊
中于也就说到
在传统的电影制作里面
由于时间和经费的限制
很多的特效
比如像是这种燃烧啊
爆炸等等一些场面
一两次就必须完成
但是AI的使用啊
能让这些原本复杂的制作摆脱了时间和空间的限制
所以他也就释放了很多的创作的灵感啊
创作的空间
那嘉宾steve他也提到了
他们公司利用AI将整个的VR演唱会的制作
大大提升了他们的效率
比如在过去啊
他们基本上会用四十到五十个人的工作量
可能是需要几个月的时间才能做完一场演唱会
但现在呢
只需要用两三个人
基本上几天就能完成了
那最后呢
我们其实还探讨了关于AI生成内容的一些争议
那比如说AI会不会取代创作者
会不会让作品失去了他本身的一些灵魂或者是意义
那lona其实就说啊
那她并没有这样的一些担忧
因为现在的AI的普及啊
其实是让更多的人有了实现自己的想的工具
让这个实现的过程更加的容易和更加的高效
以前呢
比如说是需要一整支乐队才能完成的一首歌曲
现在一个人就可以完成了
其实啊
这也是让更多的人有机会成为创作者
另外
诺娜也会说
他其实是让AI为他自己提供一些demo的不同的一些灵感和想法
但最最怎怎么样去使用这些不同的片段
然后怎么样整合起来
其实是由他来决定的
那这首歌依然是注入他自己的品味和自己的灵魂的
那在节目正式开始之前
我还是要感谢一下我们的合作伙伴
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