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Hi
Everyone
I'm welcome back to britain under the microscope
欢迎又回到闲话英伦
Hello 阿兰
Hi Lily
So alline have you been following up on the recent news about bababyeah been been reading the reports yethat drinking coach and also also ccase the ase ase
Yeah
The case which would mean they're still going through the case today
But we're not going to talk about the case today
嗯
That just made me think about the whole 酒局
Ah ah and and whole 全酒文化
And i was wondering if we can talk about the drinking culture in the uk
Yeah
Absolutely i think we did discuss a little bit about pops before
But we havenwe really had to chat about the drinking culture also attitude to drinking really in the uk
Have we
Yeah
And i thought we can do a little bit of a comparison
Okay
So first of all this idea of joyeah
So i 中文也很好
So you understand the chinese meaning yeah
How would you translate that to english yeah
Ii ah a translation right drinking party yeah
Kind of um
We would say drinks or get together
But if you say you go for drinks
It's
It's normally quite informal yeah
Like was friends yeah
It's only not a party
We wouldn't say a drinking party uh
And what about you know that sort of situation
Where let's say you need to take out a client in that case because in in chinese
When we say jojo usually it's for a purse
It's yeah for fun
If you want to entertain your client
Oh
You england not so much
Oh
In a business context
Going for a drinking party
Ah isn't really acceptable it was be a bit weird
Um actually i remember when i was looking acroross culal communication and things like that they make a big thing about the drinking call during china
And how is the accepted part um you know going to a big party
Drinking lows er toast
But drinking lot so viideal
But in the uk
We don't really have that equivalent not in business conttets
No probably at most would just be a business dinner or like a banquet
Sometimes it would probably be just a business dinner
Um and you might go for drinks
But certainly not to the same competitive nature in china
I see so talking about the attitudes towards drinking
嗯哼
Based on my own experience
You guys really can drink you drink a lot
Yes I No
The uk
Especially
Britain does really really have a reputation for drinking a lot
嗯
就酒量很好呗
Yep
And even that we calgally translate 酒量
You cannot translate
No
You can ask me
How much can you drink
But to be onse
I would say even though we do drink a lot
We do
We stend to think that drinking is something that we shouldn't do
It's kind of like a guilty pleasure type thing
Ah so even though you drink a lot of people do drink every day
Yeah
But you wouldn't go around bragging about your 酒量
With and say i can handle my liquor
No
If someone does that
That 'just think that it's a little bit pathetic
A little bit image
You it's strange a bit weird
But you started early
I mean in general well could do in terms of history or in terms of age
In terms of age
Yeah
British people they do tend to drink
When a teenagers um
So for example
I started to drink
When was about about thirty
But i assume only like a sip or like very small small glass
Glass of beer
Light beer
Something yeah
Not me like a very small beer
Well actually
Ii did like beer back ackme
So you be a small glass of wine
That you would drink with your meal
But gerally you wouldn't drink loads
You wouldn't get drunk kind
I think the first and i god drunk was when knowas about sixteen seventeen
Also so i like close to university
Close to university um
What about the attitude towards girls drinking or the difference between men and women
Because in china
I think especially in certain regions
It's men drinking is seen as acceptable or even encouraged
But women drinking
It always has that social stigma
Yeah
I've noticed in china
Um and the uk had that as well up until probably the ninety
Nineties
But not so much now
Not so much now in the nineties there was much more focus on they was like cocktax
And
And well as actually
What coptail was invented for for women
It was invented for women
鸡尾酒就是为了让女士喝酒看起来的优雅一点
Yeah
That's in basically it
They were invented in the nineteen twenty
Twenty and nineteen thirties for women who wanted to have a drink
But they didn't want to be so clearly having a drink
Like a very just drinking a beer or scott your spirit
So they made it into like a fruity drink a fruity almost
That's like a soft drink type thing i see and see it's always the market behavior isn't it they want to promote cocktails
And then women drinking became okay
But the other thing i would really like to discuss with you
It's like before when i was preparing students to go to the uk
And i always say to them to make friends with british people before kind of have to go to pubs
Because that's their main way of socializing
Yeah
But does i mean that you are under the pressure to drink
Because if you go to pubps
You have to drink
When other people are drinking
No no probably twenty years ago
Maybe
But nowadays not so much
There's actually a lot of people in the uk
Who are tea totalals
Ers t totallers so t drinkers
They don't drink
Religious reasons
It
It could also be be healthy reasons it's like in the past cigarettes and alcohol was seen us into twined
And now you can't smoke
Now you can't smoke
People more conscious about the health and fewer people smoking
And now those who health attitudes are going to drinking
So a lot of younger people actually don't drink
Now so younger people actually drink
Less honestly
I think this is the same in china
Now the whole trendcuculture ms ms be be more with middle age age yeah and up
But one thing that i do need to clarify
Here is so say i'm in the uk yeah
And then i'm going out with a bunch of colleagues or classmates yeah
And then they say let's go to a pub
And then go to to a pub
Theyy're like really what do you want to drink
If i say
Oh Sorry
I don't drink
I ll just have a coke
I'll just have an orange juice
I'll feel like i'm very suing
You know
No no
They might ask
You know you don't drink
You know no no germany
If as long long sh''s bad
As long as you're talking to them
Them
It doesn't really matter whatever you drink to be honest
And it's more socially acceptable
Now not to drink
It's not seen as so strange um
But remember when we 're talking about pop culture
We said people would buy rounds of drinks
就是要一轮一轮的买
不是每个人人自自己单杯付钱的
So even if i drink soft drinks
I still need to buy rounds
Of course
So that as long as i pay for other people's drinks
Exactly
And
But the thing is that nowadays are so many more options like you go into a pub
I remember when i go to the uk
Sometimes i go into a pub and have a coffee
Because the coffee is so much cheaper than going into a cafe
And they open very early
And
And opopen around eleven 'clock
So so you can get there uh twelve cloffee
It's very quiet
And just have a coffee and have bite tweet
But sometimes you know when we watch tv shows or movies
You see like people especially young people a universe eight
They get it around they drink quite competitively
And they force each other to drink
Oh Yeah
That's when i was the university
It was a bit
Like that you know people just kept drinking and drinking a drinking but have nethe same for young people all over the world
Really
But do you have like the americans sort of like chuck chuck chuck chuck
Lot that much for exaround around you and ssort of chaering you on to drink cocoy a amount of out come not that much for examples in sports teams or football team
You know i've been drinking with rugby teams and they do that uh
But gerally
Not really
It's again as it says if youll keep urging people to drink
You're forced in people to drink
And you're making big big thing about just getting drunk is just seeing this rather imaure ure sounds very juvenile
It does when you think uniververity kids especially what you said all these in sports groups
Yeah that's like a
When you like a nishe culture yeah that as fine
But if you see a thirty forty year old and mature adults still forcing other people to drink
That's aa bit strange
It's sad
It's a bit sad
It's a bit pathetic um
You know it's i am it ii like aa bit drunk
I do like why ine do you like scocott
I do like beer
Sometimes i do you get a bit drunk
Sometimes i might get a little bit hangover
But it's not something it i actually enjoy that much um anymore you know and i think i do like for most people in britain as well
It's not so much about getting drunk is about the quality of alcohol
That's why um craft brewes is so popular
Raabberry wine tasting
Yeah
Good wine ine cocktails
All those type of things are very popular
Now yeah are more concerned
If they do drink
They more concerned about the quality
嗯
Rather than just drinking to get drunk
就是更愿意去品酒而不是好饮
Yeah 嗯
So that cleared it up
It's more about going to the pus does not equate with drinking
Heavily no one of the things
That in the recent pandemic
There was a huge discussion about when pops would reopen
When pops clothes and people might think are that because british people just really want to drink
It's so well
You can drink at home is a lot cheaper
But is just the social aspect
You go to a pop
Because you don't go to restaurants with friends
You can't stay in restaurants
Restaurants you ok for that long not like in china
You can really stay there
The whole night in the uk it is very much you go to a pub in
Even if you don't drink
You'll still go to a pub in
There are plenty of very nice pubs
That do you have good selection of non alcoleaguc or low alcolic drinks
Um
This is what i've noticed
Because in the uk
Because of the weather
Because do you really a cafe culture
You do really really have a cafe culture
Because sit outside its raining restaurant
Like you said you finish your meal
And then you leave
You don't stay there for like forever
It's just the pubs
That's one of the main way to socialize with your colleagues
With your friends
With your classmates as also also your family as well
You know you go to a pob with your family
You go to pub with your parents
Since us in china is bit hard to imagine someone taking their parents to a bar
But in the uk
It's very very natural very very natural
Um
And to finish today's discussion
I would like to ask you about when you actually have a drink
And that you're with someone you don't do bottoms up
不会gun baba
No no
That's just seen as a again in the uk
It seems a little bit juvenir
Imaure
Yeah Okay
Then what would people say would
They just say chairs yeah
No
Just chacheers
Your health
Your health
So you're drinking alcohol and wishing each other good good heth th is not a bit contradicory well
对对对
A little bit
But um alright
Also that's our talk about the drinking culture in the uk
Honestly i think like you said the drinking culture in china is changing as well think the younger generation a much more health conscious
Oh
Yeah i member one
I first came to china
You know you go to a party
That is always the idea that you just have to drink and germany normally bigee
Which i don't really like
Very much
I think that's also why now there's this push back um against the whole 全酒文化
The whole 酒局文化
On that note
We're going to wrap up here
If you have anything to share about the drinking culture in china
In your region
Or anywhere else that you have been to in the world
Leave us comment in the comment section
Thank you
I land for coming to the studio
Thanks a lot
And until next time see you
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