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今天酒馆里有一个新客人

We have in our studio a new gas speaker

And he's actually from italy a welcome andalya joho do do

Abelia is here taltalk to us about italian culture

Especially focusing on food and drink fun topic first of all would you like to give us a little bit of your background for example

Where in italy are you originally from okay my region is a called long body

But is the um say the most famcity city of noddy's milmilano

Milan oand

It's situated in a north the center north of a of italy

And

And which part of nobody

Nobody and which part of nobody are you from

And what is that region like okay i come from aa small town called the bad gama um that is in the center of long body um and this uh beside the mountains not a mountain region

But really close to the mountains

So so is very very natal al uh area um very rich is actually uh the one of the richard cities in a europe

Um and so very hard rking people and

And how to say very simple as well um and you have been in china for six years now

Wow

Six years in beijjing the first time um i came here was a nine years ago

And uh uh i like the experience quite a lot

And so i decided to come back

I came back after two years

So i'm here since after two thousand ourteen now um

Wow 对对对

I think one thing that when i think of a italy ii go to italy quite often

And i really love the country in partly the reason is that i love the food and wine culture

Ii think this is one thing that we do share we do have in common at italy and and china would both a big moment food

So this food and and drink play a big part in italian life

Sure one of the best social moments for italy so usually when you invite friends or realities uh for launch for dinner

This is a very important and eating good food and eating a lot is and of course a coupling good wine as well is a very central in a our culture um if you invite people to your home for home cooked meal

Who's usually doing the cooking in a

In a family

Well in the family is the mother

Italian mother

Of course uh doing the preparing the food and the

And just she's like the queen of the house

Of course so she manages everything

It's a large feast plates after is the exactly it's okay the italian ititen has

Has an order

And it's quite strict

It's an order

So you go it's the

The appetizer from the first dish second dish

So you don't mix um usually some flavors like a fish and meat together um or better

You can also have it in uin the same meal

But uh h need

Need

Maybe uh um between the two dishes uh meat and fifish that can be you to to eat some um um kind of ice cream that is a called uort batto so bit survey this made a uit lemon that clean

To clean the taste

Exactly so then you can enjoy uh the tavor that can be actually wasted or cover by the flavor of the dish before

啊

所以就是两道菜之间

如果是先吃肉后吃鱼

中间为了让嘴巴里那个味道

就是把前面的味道去除掉

会吃这种比较清淡的

就survey 是一种

就是一种像水冰一样的冰淇淋

呃

叫clansthe pelot

就是把你的这个嘴竖一竖

然后再往下进行

By the way

When you're talking about wine parents

This is very interesting

Because in china

When we go out to eat or stay at home to eat

We usually just drink all the types of drinks at the same time or we stick was one particular drink

Either we drink beer

Or we drink by joe

But in italy

It sounds like you have different stages

And you drink different types of wine

So could you maybe give us a detailed coming through starting with a parpartivo

What with a bitivable petitizly aa titivly and just uh how to say to a stimultely

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You are appetite 啊

去就是唤起你的食欲

刺激你的食欲

What so what do you drink then as a appparative

Okay

The rule

General rule is you go from the ulow grade of eyicle to the higher grade of eeicle uh along the the meal so usually you start with the lower grade of eyicle

And the appetitable is a usually couple ed with a prosecle

And prosecle is at like a parative

Uh

这个是酒精度就比较低的是吧

酒精度比较低一点

呃

那酒精度比较低

先喝这个

Proycle 是一种起泡酒

意大利的起泡酒

等一下我们会再说到

And this is with your appetizer 钱财

Exactly

And then you go into like a meat dish

And then course se don't call it mais tly after apaptitiser is aa dimo is is after apmafirst course

First course

Exactly

A first course is usually bapater so so

Oh wow

You start with pasta

Exactly we ststart after appetizer

Usually there is pasta

This is so different

Because in chinese

We would think pasta 就是像这种意大利面

感觉是staple food 主食

We usually put that towards the end

After you eat all the meat and dish

Yes

They say the our juicure is a bread

Actually they say usually is not nunutritionally correct to couple paststand a bread

Because both are a carb yeah carcarhhyyrates

So so uh you don't couple it

But

And usually you don't eat pasta with bread

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But maybe we use to do scott beta

That means that we just deep the bread

When we finished the pasta

We deep the bread in the pasta sauce

But

But we think that's the good part

And so you don't want to miss any

So you don't want exactly

But

But that is only the first course exactly

And what do you drink with that was the first course

Well it depends in this case of the the souls

So if it's a meat

Souls you a drink red wine usually um

But if it's a fish

Souls you uh you couple with a white wine

But then it also depends on other roles that um two technical yeah

But this is the basic

什么红酒红肉白酒白肉

这个是最um 基本的

但是现在有很多variations

Yes yes yes and second d se se second course

Ok

The the general ruler remains the things so usually can be the same wine or you can couple something a bit stronger

The second dish es usually

What is usually called the main course um in other kind of accusing ons um so second dish

And then you have more wine second dish

I'm assuming it's kind of fish or meat

Yes

This depends on the region and a bit a more heavy in the north

And it's more based on a red meat and in the ent of south

It's a called the medituranian cuisine

So it's more lighter

Yeah

Lighter so vegetables and a fish

And after second course are we getting to things like dessert

Exactly

And so dessert uusually is a coupled with a sweet wine

And with

With high high uh high alcohol contexext 酒精度更高

That is called what is that got dessert wine yeah desert

One dessert wine

And there is a concept that i've heard it's called digestive

It's like the strong alcohol that you drink towards the end of the meal to help you

Digest 就是这种助消化的

最后那那一杯酒就比较烈的

When did you drink that

That not not desert t wis it

It no

Because the the desert

There is the coffee so well ffee means ans end end of memeand so well

Usually you drink coffee just after lunch um

But it depends

They say depends on the region

Usually coffee is lighter in the north of a italy

And that is a little bit longer

And is a very short and very strong in the souound of italy

Um

And the you couple it uwith a summer

Digestive can be made of herbs

Usually very alcoholic or get upon that is not made by a herbbut

A steel made

Made with a grapes

Like a ine grapa is kind of like the italian brandy

Exactly something like this

Exactly it's sweet and very very strong

Exquite ite curious as to

How can people handle so much alcohol throughout one meal and so many different types of alcohol

Well

Usually if it's a big event

Immediately can last hours

Ah so you space it out

Yeah

And then be don't

Don't say you drlass

Maybe one glass there each kind of

Of a

Of a wine

Maybe not even entiglass and say just so kind of a small one glass did is just to taste the wine and couple of the with the

With the food

I've noticed one part of italian food and wine culture that i found very interesting years ago

When i was in italy

I went to an event

I was a friend

Who was hosting

It's kind of just called a paradivo

It's just people gathering around a fountain

They all hold drinks

And they just chatting away

Is that it's very italian or is it just something they

They made for us tourists

No no no

It's very thaliand uh usually after work um you can just ammewith with friends before dinner

So that's why a bey tea work vertizer

Or now it's very how to say very trendy

Also to eat during a pety table

So you just eat something lighter maybe

And then you go home

And you don't eat anymore because anyway you're alat food

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But this is a very social important social evaninititum

You gather just just susome our open air place

Or also during the winter

You just go in somear to meet friends

And i drink appthe table that usually is prosecle or spirits uor some something sparkling exactly uh and you

You capple it with some ampetizer

Some smaller food

And i say so in today's episode

We have talked to andelia about italian food and wine

In the next episode

Were going to continue ue this topic

And explore more about this fascinating culture

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