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Everyone

I'm welcome back to happy hour

Today we have in our studio tj again

And he will bring us some interesting stories about philosophy

Hi Tj

Hi nice to be back

So tj

What are we going to talk about today

Today we're going to talk about lies

Have you ever lied to anyone

Luler

Of course

I have hawe't never lied

I've never lied in my life life

I've never lied anyanylife

It just don't believe you

I think that is the biggest lie in the world to today

That i have never lied to anyone

I'm very pure of hei

I'm very very honest person 就很纯洁哈

But i don't believe you anyway

Tj

Because i know you anyhow so is this

We're going to talk about today

Lies right

Lilies a very interesting when pete studies have been done about this

There was a very large study in the readers digest

Where they found the ninety three percent of people recorded dishonesty work or school

School or in business

And ninety six percent of people said they lift people they care about their family and their friends

So that's a lot

Lot of lying

A actually when we consider we normally think of lying as bad

We tell children don't lie

Don't kill people

Don't steal

Well we won't still or kill people

But we lie ourselves despite the fact

We tell our children

Our students do not lie

So that is contradiction

Yeah

Let's get back to the very beginning of this topic

What is the definition of lie or lies

Well

You know philosophers like to argue about things a lot

But let's just keep it straightforward for this

And say lying has two parts number one

It's intentional you do on purpose

And the second part is that you want to misrepresent something

So you have a belief in your head

About the way

The world is

And you tell somebody something else on purpose

所以一个要素是要是你故意的

就不是无意

而是故意的intentional

第二个是要miss interpretation

So it's not the truth 是by the way you know that in court

You watch court room drama 这个法庭句的时候

You hear they take a nose

And they say i will speak the whole truth and nothing

But the truth so my question is if i have only told part of the truth and left something out

Would that considered a lie

Because technically i did not lie

I did not give you any false information

Right

This is what we call a i of a mission

Where you admit something

You don't say something

You should have said so you're still misrepresenting what happened you're still not giving people a clear

A itcher of exactly what the relevant information is so that is still a lie

Preprethigh standard is no wonder

So many people have lied

By the way is that a human specific behavior are anmans

The only animals that lie

No animals can like too there's been cases of appes like gorillas that lie

When they do something that they know is bad

Somebody asks them did you do that

And then they will point at somebody else since they know

But supposome did it

所以大猩猩也会撒谎

还不光是人类的一个行为

嗯

But i'm sure

Today we're not talking about

Are we lying or not because like you said most of us lie

You said you don't lie

But don't

Don't believe

I think you still do exact what are we going to focus on today um

What we're going to talk k about eethics of lies

Should we lie

And when should we lie

And how should we lie

If at all some people would say don't lie

And some people think it's not very a big problem at all um i'm sure

They're different schools of thoughts

Different perspectives in the field of phoosopy

Different phphooopopers have very different attitudes towards line

Should we lie

Should we not right

I will going to start with can't ant

He has a very strstrong opinion

That lying is against the law of reason

If you think about it

Then you would realize that we should just never ever lie

When you lie to somebody

You take away that rationality

Because they don't have the ability to make it informed decision right

And you take away the dignity

When you lie to them

That it's something

It's a kind of abuse for i

When you can al something from somebody

And i'm a bit curious

You said it's against the law of reason 就是是违反这种理性的

So it's not about whether it's the right thing to the whether it's um ethical or not

But it's more about logic

It's more about rationality

嗯

Right so can't is completely rational

He thinks that we can make rules

We think think about lologicwe we can make rules

And he thinks if everybody lies when it's convenient for them 的the whole idea a talking king to each other and communicating just breadown i

That we do damage to ourselves

And we do damage to the community

It doesn't make sense

It's not logical to lie

嗯

所以康德是说绝对不要撒谎的

So no exceptions

What soever even in really specific situations

Where lying is actually good the x murderer example is good case of how far can't will go not to lie

嗯

What is that

The example is hiding in your house

Unless say you hiding in your house

Because braad wants to kill you

Because wants to come and attack you with an acts

嗯

Braad comes to my house

And he says isluluu hiding in your bedroom

And i say yes

Why would you give me out

Like that she's upstairs second door on the left

Well that's what kamp says

He says that is law just like plus one equals too it doesn't matter

If it's convenient or if you're on the moon or under the sea

Whatever the circumstances

The rules are always the same for cancant

And he says that he would tell the truth

Because that's what you should do in that situation um so completely rational no emotions

Whathowever sounds like cold

Right Red

And many people think kind is a bit

Robotic yeah very cold

But what are some of the other perspectives

So another perspective is the consequentialist

Perspective

Consequentialist 这个叫结果论

Is all about what happens as a result

嗯

And they would say don't think about the rules

And don't think about it

You can use logic

But we use this to think about what happen in the future

And usually yytaltalabout happhappiness

So we can lie as long as the results

嗯

Are much better than lying

And we also have to think about whether we would be exposed or not of course

Because if you lie

And then someone finds out that you've lie

That can be not so great as well

The consequence wouldn't be so so good

Actually sounds like a very pragmatic or even uulitarian editde only 主意the 这样的一个态度

For instance people who cheat on their partners a lot of them

They cheap not because they won't hurt their partners

It's because they believe they're not onna get caught

And there are some people even saying things like it's not cheating

If you don't get caught

It's that sort of like they're looking for any wthilof of cheating

While they think they won't get caught

So they won't be any bad consequences

Because

Because people sound ound a ve it short sighted to me

Um

Because i mean every criminal in prison

They all think that they won't get caught

People like heavy winsteam

They all think they

They all think they get away with it

Until they don't you know

嗯

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