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Now on with the show hello again

And welcome back to america under the microscope canying youll without xuh a 美国

Hello again

Bret Hello

So in this episode

I thought we talk about something again

More related to let's say working was your hands or or tack related since that's what you're into

You're actually doing a degree

Another degree in mechanical engineering

Electrical engineerelectrical engineering okay

So you quite ite engineering ok ay going to ask you about shop class for those of you

Who are listening

If you watched enough american tv shows or movies

You probably have seen shop class or at least heard people talking about shop class

This seems to be a specific class

Is more like adiy working was your hand class in middle school

Yep it starts in middle school

Um usually they don't started in an own entrary school

But usually in middle school

High

High school

And many middle schools

When i was younger

All the stustudents had take a shop class

Regardless of whether a boy or a girl

Everyone had to take this class

So it's a compulsory

Everyone had to take it yes

And how frequent is this class like once every week or i have

I remember correctly we met at least three times a week

I think maybe three times a week

Three times a week like you have

You said in middle school

So that would be what twelve thirteen

Yes i was uh i took my first shop class

When i was twelve in six grade

Three times a week

Sounounds a lot each of this would shoone our c class

Yeah

One hour

I think the other days we took a music class

Or something like that uh

So what is this shop class four and why is it caught shop class

Because the first time i heard shop class

I thought it was a class

That teaches you to shop

嗯 Yeah

Um shop comes from like the word workshop year working in a workshop

Y're in a room

That has lots of tools

But basically the whole point of the class is to introduce like trade skills working with materials like worood plastic and metal using

所以有点像我小的时候那种劳动课或者手工课

But it's not really andandicraft

It's not arts and craft

It's more like using actual tools to make things was would was metal

Yep like kids will have an art class where they go

And they paint they that's more the arts

They yeah they make craft some things like that

But in shop class

You know people work with tools and actually build things

They might relife problem solving

Yeah 嗯

And you said trade skills

Here trade would be like a certain trade

Like carbon trade is a trade

比如说木工

或者说什么别的公众

So this is trade skills

Yeah

Within trade

We usually have a carpenter or an electrician

You know we have more engineering type jobs

But when you're looking at someone who put sandy the wiring in a house

They're in electrican um

And so they'll learn a trade construction work is usually i trade by trade not doing the basic construction work

But maybe driving dee the crane or something like that

So it's like a specific skill

That's needed okay

Why would shop class be mandatory or compulsory

When you were growing up

I'm not sure now

But what was the logic behind it

Well

Most people didn't go to university

It would

Maybe be half of the students want to university

The other half of the students would

They would actually go out and have a trade

And so usually by the time you were done with high school

You should have the ability to have a basic understanding of one of these students

So you could go off and be in a prrentice

It's more vocational education

职业教育的一部分

Than part of it is okay

What do you actually do in shop class

First of all how the class usually it was a normal size class ass usually nortwenty to thirty students

And do you have a specific room for shop class

Or is it just any it was in my middle school

It was a very large room

It was probably about the size is of four normal classrooms

Um they have large tables for people to work on their projects

And they had all the different tools that um normally would use like an electric sauand different types of things

Thank 锯

So you guys were twelve thirteen year old

And you were given electric sauce to work with right

And you have like a class of twenty to thirty people with one teacher um hi wouldn't want to be that teacher

Yeah

The teachers were usually a little bit more strict

And so if someone was using the table saw

They might be right there watching it well they were while the students we're using the table saw

But my teacher he was a little bit more relaxed

You know he would be off doing something else well a student was using the the table saw

Have you seen accidents happen never with the table saw

But with like other things like maybe a hacsaw w someone cut their finger

Something like that i've never seen one one t off their their inger

But mamaybe just really deep cut i couto papaint that picture of the entire class

And trying to locate someone's missing from okay so all these tools

But what purpose one of the things that i built was aa candy dispenser that looked like a robot

Every time you move the robots arm candy would come out of dispenser

Oh

So typically at something mechanical l

But something that would have like a purpose for example aa bird feel

But not just your typical bird feater one that might prevent something like a squirrel from getting into the bird feater in taking the birds food

Food 比如a way 鸟的或者发unit

Like you said it has a mechanical structure yeinside um

So i guess this is where the real life practicality comes in

And do you get grades

Do you get greated on these finished products

Yeah

Usually as long as you followed all criteria

Like you had some sort of mechanical thing on the inside that works and you showed like the the process of building it

Then you would get an a

But if you didn't finish your project

Or if you were missing something

Or if you didn't have something mechanical or something that follow the rules of your project

Then you wouldn't get a passing score um or perhaps

If you are losing fingers

You get a passing score so jokes aside do you get to keep these finished results

These machines or these things

Most of the time you did i gave my candy dispenser

My grgrmmthe the other projects

Though i don't remember what happened to them

Usually you keep them it depends on what you're doing as well there are some clubs and things that might work in in the shop and build something and then sell them it make money for like a party or something like that uh i see ususome all about when you were growing up

But shop class i would imagine with the whole technology

These days with ai computer

With the internet

Shop class wouldn't be too much up to date

Nowadays with it right now a lot of middle schools have forgone the the shop class

A lot of times when they're building a new school

They ww't 't ding this type of facility with inside the school class

So a lot of schools don't have parparcular class

They might

Might some some school activities related to stem

Where they might do computer programming or work work with three prprters ters and things

Like this remind me of the stem

Again it's science technology

Science technology education

I was engineering

Engineering and then math

Math Yeah

Okay

So now it's more obviously up to date and perhaps

It's also shock shop class can be quite costly and just the space alone

Yeah

A lot of the higher cost programs

Like music and shop class have been cut in many districts just because they are

They do cost so much

They might have music clubs and things like this or orchestra and a lot of times

If you are in that

You have to have your own instrument

Already so so schools

Because they're public ols

They wouldn't pay for that

Yeah

In the past

They You

You

You have a lot of instruments

But nowadays they don't um i see

I think that rubps up today's episode in the advanced episode about shop class

We're ggoing a get into this topic a bit more and talk about gender gaps perhaps

And also the role of design and technology in the american educational system

I'll see you next time

Thank you bye

Well