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Hi 杨兰 Hi

Lulo Luhi

Hi everyone

So what 're gonna talk about today

Wow

I notice in your white

Can you are talking about syntax

Oh Yeah

Yeah 罪恶

Shuh

We were talking about europe

So i thought maybe let's talk little bit about about um

Everyone likes sin

And i'would be likes tax

呵呵呵

So hopefully

You might find something of interest in this episode

If you haven't really been following our vicon course

We need to give you the general background of what syntax is if you have have about whicon course

Then well

This will be a listening review for you

Yeah

Um the first of all what sysyntax

Well

A syntax is attacx added to goods

Also says seen as harmful to individuals or society ie the simple act yes

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所谓罪恶税

就是一般来说被认为对人或者对社会不太好的一些行为

Yeah

抽烟喝酒啊这些东西

Yeah

Too cisely

But it's not just that

It doesn't just stop at smoking and drinking

No

We're onna get into that

Loviously

It's called sytax

Because they're seen as moral blemishes

Shall we say moral sines yes

So of example

Ull cigarettes in tobacco um alcohol sugary drinks

Sugery drinks

Oyeah causes obesity

You know

If you drink too much

If you drink too many sugary drinks

It does affect your health

Yeah

But you don't have to i mean

I drink a coke once

But don't have twice in a month

Why should i pay higher taxes

Well

It's more about the people that drink a lot more than that

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But also things like gambling

Oh Well

Gambling i can understand yeah

Um

And sometimes junk food or even nowadays as people noaware the environment carbon emissions

Carbon emissions 就是碳排放

I understand junk

I think it's the same about like

Like obesity and siah

Yeah

Right Yeah

So today we're going to get into why government would use syntaxes

How they use it the real life examples

And we are going to share with you

The arguments in favor of syntaxis

Yeah

And the arguments against it

So in the future

If you want to get into the ncussion of syntaxis

Which mind you chchina to going

Going to see probably more of that adline

Yeah

Ah so if you want to talk about that topic in the future

You have more expressions and opinions alright

So first of all let's get into the details of why government would use syntaxes

First of all obviously is to discourage what the government sees as harmful

Have its yep

So for example

Smoking um

It's difficult to ban smoking

Completely because people always can say they have freedom choice

Yeah

They can choose to smoke

Or they can choose not to smoke

It's ultimately their own health is their own body

So we're not going to tell you what you can smoke or not we're just going to put heavy tax on it

Well yeah

Ah

And it's up to you

Weever know you want to pay that tax or not yeah

The other reason i would definitely say ys financial

Yeah

Because if you have too many of these simpful quotta quote simpful activities or acts or habits yeah

You 're probably going to end up in worse

Let's say financial or medical situations yeah

Then the government will have to pick up the pieces or pick up the tap

Well Yeah

So that's one of the main arguments is the people who smoke or people who drink excessively

There are the ones that probably gna need more healthcare in the future

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So let's get into each of these things

Being taxt in the whole category of syntax

Yeah

The first is cigarette

Like you said i don't know

If you guys know this

I mean

I'm not a smoker

But in china

I've seen cigarette boxes

It does say smoking

It's harmful

吸烟有害健康

But it's usually not that big prints

Yeah

那个字的厚并不是特别大

I think in europe you're legally required to have half of its cover

Yeah

Saying smoking kills or have really nasty picture of the smoker's lungs

Yeah

That to gross you out

Right

Exactly smoking advertising in bbanand in the uk yeah

Same here same in china

Um also smoking packets most of is taken up with messages

Such as like smoking kills

Yes

Smoking king dangers your health

And also so very graphic nasty pitches

Ah

What it does your body

Yeah

But when these don't work syntax

Yes

How expensive

I know you're not a smoker

Either so

But do you know how much a pack of cigarette costs

It can cost over fourteen pounds

One pack twenty cigarettes

Yeah

Fourteen pounds

Yeah

How can people i still see a lot of smokers in the ug ay

Well they spend money

Money on cigarettes

Yeah

Most of that is tax

Most of that is tax

Yeah Yeah

I would assume that

Because i mean

We're not even talking about very like premium high end cigarettes

It is normal pack of cigarettes

Oh Yeah

And smoking rates have dropped

As prices have increased imagined that

Yeah

But one the issues obviously nowadays is vaping

Has become more popular

Yeh 就是电子烟

Yeah

Is vipnot not taxed

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I don't think it's tax to the same extent as cigarettes and tobacco

I know a lot of countries are trying to come up with new policies to tax vaping

Yeah

That's

That's the things

It's so new

It's still somewhat unregulated

Yeah

So that was smoking

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What about alcohol

Alcohol taxes are quite high in the uk

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Particularly for spirits

Its spirits means stronger alcohol

Whisky

Vodka

Vodka janan

Because people

People think okay whisky

Because okay i am et it

I like a whisky

I do you really enjoy like nice whisky

One of the things that people think about is that whisky are very high and product um

Because it costs a lot of money

But most that is actually tax to produce whisky is actually very very cheap

You talk about there's heavy tax on alcohol or on whisky in the uk

But do you know know like councountries in anannaavian tritrilike sweden

Yeah

You know that's exwedish right the absolute vodka

I think that was in swedish brand

So you would think usually buying that brand in absolute webe aer ah

Which usually is

But in that particular situation is actually more expensive to buy absolute vodka so freedom

Because the price dropped

But the tax went up

Yeah

I think the tax was double

The amount of the actual of of the cocol

Well it's not

Not just there for example

Buy

Buy whisky in china um

Because it's cheaper than by ina in the uk um not even just for duty free

But even if you go on jingdo o or taobbao

It is still cheaper than in uk

So even including all of the i know import yes yeah and delivery fee it's still cheaper is still cheaper

Because we have a lower tax

We also do have tax just not to that ad extend

Yeah

Not it extent yet

Not at that extent yet

But standonavia is a special case

Because in councountry such as weweden and iceland

There are very strict laws about the sale of alcohol um

So there are government shops without only open at certain times of the day

Yeah

And it looks like a drug dissensory you

Oh Yeah And

And looks like that normally only open during the day

Yeso for example

If you want to have a drink

Then you have to really plan

That you want to drink is not a case of

Oh

I fancy a beer

I'm gonna go downstairs to a convenience store

A convenience storm pick one up

It's i no

If you want a beer

If you want to drink

You have to really plan

And i always remember when i was at university

I went travelling a little bit of scandandaivia

Yeah

And i was in finengland to see a friend of mand ii on the ferry from finland to estonia

Yeah

Which is about maybe too drhk

And were was so droned

There were so many finish people who were so so drunk

And they were yeah carry ying so many bottles of alcohol

I even saw it like someone pushing a bottle of alcohol

There's pretty much the same size of a small child

Wow

And i was absolutely amazed because

Because finland has that same regulation so basically

Everyone goes to other countries to buy

To buy or get drunk

And then bring it back to finland

Yet i do have very high taxes on alcohol

The only thing you can get at regular supermarkets will be fairly very light beer

Yeah

To a drinker that would be basically

Not even alcoholic well is okay yeah

And also you talk about buying alcohol across borers in the united states

Because each states would have different regulations so in some states alcohol significantly cheaper yeah

So the drinking habits would be different

And also people travel to buy

Yeah um

Well so we have drinking

We have smoking

And also gambling

I mean gambling

We can just very quickly go through because yeah

Mean gambling

Detext gambling

I understand the logic

Oh Yeah um

But it's not just casino is so al lottery

Lottery

Yeah

So lots of lotteries are run by the state

Um 对

像这个博彩

就国家的那种

菠菜也种

我们买什么题材啊什么的

That's also heavily tax

That is also heavily tax and a lot of the process they go into local projects

Um

But there's also something called sugar tacks or sodattacks

Yes

This is when countries add tax to sugary drinks like coke spsprefanantaa yeah to fight obesity yeah and diabetes

Diabetes turn up for

For example you guys have heavy sugar tax right we have on industries

I'm not sure so much about the individurithere there was like

Because i know scotland i believe has that um

But in the uk there's been a push for companies to rece ce the ounount sugar in their drinks

Because i don't think it's so much for food now because sugar we drinks one leading causes

Because if you consider that for example people drink coke all day long yeah

And i know friends of mine who would literally drink like two leaders of coke a day

You don't know why think think

Because sscientifically have read more than one article on it

Sugar is actually quite addictive yeah

It is um so the more

You consume sugar the more you want it

Yeah

But therefore obviously if you think about it from the government

Governments perspective

If you consume lots of sugar as an individual

You have a much higher possibility yeah

Of becoming diabetic

Getting diabetes

And by which time you will need a lot more medical resources compared to a healthy person

Yeah

There's all public health management

And also obviously obesity in itself can be very costly

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