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Im not sure
If you feel remember it or up a weve met at arm
Of course there were music war
Yes in two thousand eighteen first of all
Thank you for having me
Thank you for having ving ouh you know i think there is a huge benefit in writing in producing for other people
Im pretty sure
You may felthat way as well
But it allows me to go to places that i wouldnt go for myself
And as much as it feels like you know i mean know what im doing
What im doing
Songs that im you featured as a solo artist
Uh some people know
But most people dont know that all of my solo efforts have always been
Songs that i have written and produce for other people
In fact
When i tried to write song gs myself or produce songs for myself
They always are too complex
And seeing much more like a puzzle than they do um you know a jim
You know a bad
But i do those for other people so for me
Often times my best stuff is uh the stuff that i poached back for myself
I dont know how it is for in two thousand
Thousand five
Two thousand and five i was just a mestary school kid
And i just wanted to be a rapper
As i am yet to got to know whats rap
As you know basically as riym m popoetry as i just felatattractive for this whole general you know send the messages to the world
Actually its really um you know embarrassing to um answer about all this in front of my own idol
But its for me
Its for me
Its
Its really
Its really more confiy to you know
Mostly for me i write somebodys
Lyrics Or
Or the melodies
For
For other autists
As many as you
But it feels like you know
It gives me another advertise in characters
Yes yes
So so
When it comes to me
Um its a complex
And its it always comes with the pain you know too to confess
But its still um the most important part for me
I can relate
Today i think think the pain part for me is probably the fun park
Because admming thats like some of the most vivid paint that we can use as artist one were like filling in what we want to be a powerful
Powerful versulike okay
Does it urt enough you know
Or does it feel good enough you know
I understand you there when you say you know
You know
You you
You inject the pain in your verses to make sure thats like right you know theyre strong ong
I agree
I was wonder that you know creative process sknow how its different for you
Yourself like in my mind
Or Or girl
Or you know between you
You ssounds
You for
For the others
You like the sermor
Or the recorers were like clips
Ps
Grounding
Of course i just wonder the difference you know from
From the scratch
So one of artist walks
Am they ask for something like track
Or you know
You say
You know
You know
I just want something hard
Or i want something darker
Or i want you know
You know something less like for the club like you know banger
You know say and banger like
And so im considering what theyre looking for
But im also thinking about like the texture of their voice
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And and the
And the patterns and the mealities that they do usually then i think about um how i can give them something very different
Different than theyve ever done before
And so when you mix all of that together a lot of times
You know an artist will say and as a little different for me are whatever
And then ill go ahead and referencit and 一龙sell
Sell it to someone else
And know like often times that saying personal come back him to me
And say man why dont dnt play me
It and ii did play you there
But they werent hearing it in that way theyres a fun part
Yeah
Thats a fun part
But then there are people who
Who jump out the window
And they go ahead and try it
But then whowhole is just just try it
We dont have to put it out
But you know people are so good ore what they ts sometimes theyre afraid to explore different parts of their voice
Different parts of their personality
And different parts of their career
So you know
Know are little little like hesitant
But for the ones that do try it
They get to experience something new and look if weve decided the end ded today
Its
Its not right for them
Its not right for them right
But you got to hear a different side
Thats my favorite part of writing and producing for it like a challenging
Yeah like so here comes another thing okay
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I started
I started to listen to music on me like the hip hop music and in two thousand and five
I started with the nors and eminom ok
Of course the classics
Ah
But you know
As i get to know you
When i
When i first listen to your song
Especially i just want to point out to take off yebecause thats my um thats my playest one of the players
So thats crazy
When i want i listen till it
I just 没有
I even
I even wrote
I even translated in this carean
And i just
Just recorded once ce i wasnt im amamauur
So
So you know
When i listen to it
I just always been wanting to have the you know frequency like you know
Because i always cross over this these days
John doesnt mean anything
But i think at that time
I think was like you know
Some some rappers
Really criticize the rappers who saying or
Or use the auitunes
But i dont know you started your career as
As a producer
Or so youre like very unnatural for that
But i always um wanted to have the frequency like you
Like you know it
Sometimes a the ying you could be fast at all
Sometimes you wrab
Sometimes you just
You just send a hook for the audy artist
Yeah
Its some dog and so how how do you position yourself
When you
When when when
When you participate in the song as as a player
Wow
First boall these were great questions
And no ones ever asked me
I really like no ive never had a journalist ever asked that i really matters me to me some so
And thats no thats like no cap
Like you believe it and not no ones
And it sounds like they could have
And it could as such an obvious question
But no one has ever asked me
That so im glad
Im blown away by it im everything i make decisions based off of feeling
I dont make them based off of convention
Yeah
And this is just whatever it feels like it needs
And im gonna
Gonna channel it as best as i can cause im trying to tell somebody else
Whos going to be
Be better to me to do it often times what will happen with people artists will be like now we want you to stay on it
And i would like nobody is for this person
But i channel what i feel like is missing
And i
And i forget that is gona be me
Because if i think that is going to be me
Then it wont be as good
And i wont be as confident
Im only confident knowing that i am giving the instruction and the directives to someone else like for example
It is a record that idea with mysacle long time of those caustitical
Wow Yeah
Shaki s right
So when i did that record
I was thinking like you know right and why you know china i produced it together
But when i was
When i was writing that hook
I was pretending that like any kendricks from attemptations
Uh could do it and i remember scientim
Oh Man
You know we dont get like you know we dont get um
You know the got from the
You know the temptations to do
And it would like
No no we the record company once use they on our
Ah was like way what so it was like this weird thing
Where like like i started realialize that was my sweet spot is when i channel other people
And i surrender to what the music needs
And that let my ego or my feelings get involved
And then i actually make better decisions
Where theres going being me on the song at the end of the day or the artist
Artist ive
Given i filled in the blank
And and given them a different feeling
And and often times
Sometimes i would be sharp
You know one of single
But it just felt good
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And we would just leave it so im not sure if few a few member
Or i weve met at
At um courcourse
There were mumuc war
Yes in two thousand eighteen
Yeyeah
Yeah
Ah took a photo
It ta photo
I dont want photo you
You know
I want
Want you know
Be aggressive
Lets hoto do i really wanted lets leave
I think we took a photo
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Back styeyeah back day day
Yeyour acacyeah
And then like i was working in a studio
Not too far off
And i really want to be like
Like But
But all it is no
You know what let me like
Let me correct this because i dont what your fabies to be mad
And
And using this kind of language
But
But man
I was like men
I would wanted to be like listen lets leave
Here right now and go makes of create music
I just love everything that you guys would do
And i just i love your energy
And you know i love what it is that you represent
You know such a time
When you know our asian brothers and sisters
And you know um fellow asian human beings
And maybe not
Maybe dont identify necessarily binarily uh ha bininarary way you know the asian um community just gradually through so much
Yeah
Yeand um gradually more more um
The asian community has given me so much
And i really feel like youns energy
Youre also showing like artist perionot per period
Not just like and different
Not just in one specific
General
But i think youre just like also showing people that like you dont have to be
You can be humble
You
You guys
Your energy is very
Theres a lot of humility
That you are vibrate
I think thats a great energy
What people dont realize is like when you have
You know literally
You know hundreds of millions of fans
And you encounter them
You know twenty
And
And one hundred thousand
At a time
Can
Can notice a single fieman man
Just
Just a
Just a mass ss ah
Its
Its a mss
Yeah Its
Its a mass
Its a mass
And
And it is a massive voass
And it is a massive using that word mass
It is a massive energy comon at you
And you say john
And they dont
And they jump
And you sing
And they sing everywhere right
And you know that you can feel through their voices
That so many of their lives have been affected and change
Because of something that youve done
I dont know how you
I dont know how you do it
Because ive had a couple songs do it
And then when i get out there go seeing it that would make me cry
Because it was too much of a responsibility
Every time i get that close to that size in
And what i do is a musician
I always step back
Oh
Why sorry
This is a heavy
Its
Its heavy y mind
Its too much of our responsibility
Thats why i really reveal people like yourself
And you know youre
Youre bad members and other artists
Like b and j and like man which ill go out there and go face every night on at stage
It is
It is humbling and is overwhelming
And sometimes your nervous system ggoing to be built for of course let me ask you this how do you deal after you
You come off the stage
Fill in a lectrified and shocked every night
How do you
How do you
How do you decompress or do you decomppress or do you perge like how do you do that its you know it did i
My first performing was um in front of like ten people in some small clubs
When i was like fifteen okay
And um i like forgota a most of the lyrics
So at that tyg just realized that
Oh
Im not you know know im not star ar pe
Im not you know like a
Like these like a front man
And you know could enjoy all this t
And just you know like like like cccobae or like jaga
Im not that type
But im just a man
And just who loves right writing music
And just you know the energy
So every night um like for example we had um hesitating shows in last facace
Last april yeah was four
But like every night is a
Is a challenge
Its like same set that is you know its like maybe the same flows sort taps little different
But just like he said in that moment
Like after we finish the first three beginning songs
And then we you know
Take out the ephphes yeah
And i like we dislike were
Were fucking back back that
Thats like everybody shouting out that moment
You know thats what i really gets all
All the nerves um and like you know its like theres a different
Different
Me persona
For for for for the next two hours in a half
But
But before that from rerehearsal
And even in the ane
I got really like really nervous
And you know like so nerous
And i like i really am aware of the stres
That you know things buy the tickets
And they come from brazil
You know from japan
Koreally from everywhere they just come there for there for just that one night
So it feels me like i have to pay back
You know i have to give them
I have to offer them the best night ever in their lives
So its said its a mess
And its
Its a too much energy
But um im a human
And i really get nervous
And i really sometimes get depress
But and even you know get swallowed by all the energies
But im trying
And im i tried to do it because im in human
And i love the music
I love their love
Because you know i think love is really happening
When we give somebody not we
We say yes
Ah yeah
So i think its more closer
Closer to the real love
I guess personally
So i just wanted give
Give
Give him back
You know they im bought us from you know just a small city in carea all the way back to know this
The heart of this news industry
Yes
Fafahaous la new york
You know we having an interview with for il il it could happen
Because of you know fans all over the a well im just always great fun
I just dont wanna disappoint them
How do you define
How do you position yourself like you know your producer
Yeah
You may be a rapper
You maybe a singer
Yeah
You maybe aceo
Yeah
Um father a husband
Yeah
Like whawhats ts you know
Of course the name for well explains everything
But you know
But except that how do
How will you define
Yourself like i dont know
I mean you know
Im a Im a
Im a public servant
First public servant
Yeah
I like that
Like that yeah
And you know when you serve the public
You know you doing swhat something for public
Yeah Yes
Thats gogod will im beliebelieve
Yeah
You know
Know the universe is real um from me
God is the universe
Were in the universe
And then you know again
You know being a public surveit
You know being
You know a father husband um
And then
Music is like everything from because music is the skeleleton key
Thats opened up every door
So ay to pemusiyeah like the scn of everything can could ent out
That i wasnt able to do all the stuff that im able to do
And then i definitely have my struggles with having aa lack of a sense of purpose
I think when they uwrright around two thousand in fact
When i put out in my mind
I just felt like right after as soon as it didnt do what
I wanted it to do i mean culturally it
It made an impression
But it didnt do it egatistitically it didnt performed a way
I wanted it to ach our yes like it just didnt do what
I was used to at that time
And im really heapy
Hebut i maybe start to think about like purpose and things having real true dna and not just a stethetic preversion um but like real true
Like meaning uh and something that could be meaningful to people
But at same time still fline
And you know ive always loved the girl
Also that was always going to a part of it
But so i understand
And that that is know
Know what is like to hit that part
That place in your career
And for whatever reason
And then you guys will do ing fine
But i think you know from what im hearing
And what im understanding
You guys had you heit a place
Where you were like you know what are we doing
Who are we are we
Who we said we were you know
And you as you think about who you are you think about what you mean
And what your intentions are
I also kind of determine ine
Who want
Want to be um at me has it has that feel like what where are you in that process
Right now is you working on a solo record
Yes like ninety percent of the work
This time i think ive reasase some mixstate as a you know one of the member
Of the ban
But i think it was just like a
Like a experiments
I think this time is my
Maybe
Maybe my official first solo album
Okay that i could feel enough
Okay i dont know its going to be like um i dont know its if i
If i would feel like you after my mind
Or not i think you know itll happen after when i release it
So i just
Im just dependent
On On
On the time
But um its been just like ten years
After we had our debut
Um as a ten
So you know
Kpp is you know all about the
All about the benefit groups
And actually i told you
I personally started my career
As a As a
As a rapper
And as as a poet
Yeah
So um 这个的这个
That Thats
That was it freicate or actually ally because you know
Um the caa was like it is like a mix
Its like the mixing american pop music
Other visuals and the carriers
And
And social medias and stuff
Its really intense and really hacked
So it has some prosing comes of his own
So you know
After ten years
I think
嗯um it was not our intention
But we
We took it
But we actually became a sort of a social figure
So you know
Ahpp up in going to have a
Have a speech at the un
Or you know
Meeting the presidenis
Um like i really ii think i was really confused
And im like a what
What am mlike like didiomatat
Or what you know i was just like a you know a small small rapper and lerxis
Um when i was young from the scratch
So um
So it was ten years
Really intense as a team
And im actually was in charge like almost all of the interviews
And um you represresenting the time in front t the other members
That was my
That was my stuff
I yes role
Yeah so i think i got really i dont know like yeah i got
I got tta stop
I got to stop this for a forbid
You got to shut it down
And just you know
Far from away
Fall ar fffrom in a way
And then just see whats going on you know making my mind really im come down you and then i think so thats how i im got to concentrate of my just
Just sold of
And i these days
I really have been thinking about the be fifteen
When i
When i first listen to you
You know the first um eling and diviile and the reason
Why i started what i
What i chose music
You know for my whole life
I guess so um yeah
When i was
When i was
When i started my music
I was like fourteen
And now im like twenty eight
So its like just the half
Its i got its like short way
Shorter than you were
Um so im in that process
So its really tricky and confusing
And i just dont know whats going to happen
Um so any if you could give me any advices because its were
And you are in the band
And you done the best its different from the cap hop you
You
It done a lot of projects like of course any rt um nap tunes
And you know of course your solo
Yeah so um like any
Any thoughts about um you know of being
Being in an up tones
Being in any rd and having a solar record really helped me because and you know
You do one thing that you take a break
You do another thing that you take a break
You do another other things
You
You know
Yeah And
And it allows me like put on different heads
And put on different heads
Um so i understand that um h and i know like having net departure is going to make it really fresh for you
Um i think its good for you
To do that because
Then when you come back to it
You know
To the team
I think its going to yeah
To the team
I think its going to be superfreshing
I have a whole lot ideas
I would just say contayou to move forward
Contintain it to be curious um
And dont put any kind of necessary pressure on what it is that you do by saying
You know no absolutes like
Oh
I will never do music again
Or i will never
I wouldnt do any of it
I would just no nervous
No nervous
Just stay along for the ride
Going see you know